{"id":3631,"date":"2013-01-24T23:52:35","date_gmt":"2013-01-24T21:52:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/?p=3631"},"modified":"2013-01-24T23:52:35","modified_gmt":"2013-01-24T21:52:35","slug":"random-playback-order-is-not-truly-random","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/2013\/01\/24\/random-playback-order-is-not-truly-random\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8221;Random&#8221; playback order is not truly random"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Steps to reproduce:<\/p>\n<p>1. Load a playlist of N files in VLC<br \/>\n2. Set playback to Random<br \/>\n3. Play or jump (with &#8221;Next&#8221; button) the playlist forward for N files and observe the playing order<br \/>\n4. GOTO step 3<\/p>\n<p>What happens:<br \/>\nThe order in which the files are played in step 3 always repeats itself.<\/p>\n<p>What I expect to happen:<br \/>\nFor the files to be played back in a truly random order, without any perpetually repeating pattern.<\/p>\n<p>Further info:<br \/>\nThe playing order seems to get shuffled only at the start, so the playlist isn&#8217;t played in order, but the once-shuffled order is repeated over and over. To reshuffle the playlist, VLC has to be restarted, but still then it just plays the newly-shuffled playlist over and over.<\/p>\n<p>To be fair, in practice instead of true randomness I suspect most people prefer something from the way the &#8221;Random&#8221; now works: that each file on the playlist is played once and once only in every N plays. AFAICT it is not mutually exclusive with reshuffling the playlist between those N plays; just make sure that the two transitional files (last file of shuffled-playlist-1 vs. first file of shuffled-playlist-2) aren&#8217;t the same.<\/p>\n<p>I for one though would still prefer even true random over what it currently is.<\/p>\n<p>Of the half a dozen or so randomness-related bugs in VLC&#8217;s tracker I was able to find, Ticket #5730 (&#8221;New Feature Request: Shuffle &amp; Random for Playlists&#8221;) [1] came closest to what I&#8217;m reporting here. In fact, it&#8217;s a superset of this one and I&#8217;d prefer to have it fixed over just mine.<\/p>\n<p>*[1] http:\/\/trac.videolan.org\/vlc\/ticket\/5730#trac-ticket-title<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The order in which the files are played in step 3 always repeats itself. To reshuffle the playlist, VLC has to be restarted.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8860],"tags":[8928],"class_list":["post-3631","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-vianhallintajarjestelmat","tag-vlc","sijainti-launchpad"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3631","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3631"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3631\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3640,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3631\/revisions\/3640"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3631"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3631"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/kommentit\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3631"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}