{"id":1655,"date":"2005-11-03T22:04:01","date_gmt":"2005-11-03T20:04:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mummila.net\/marginaali\/?p=1655"},"modified":"2005-11-03T22:04:01","modified_gmt":"2005-11-03T20:04:01","slug":"42","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/","title":{"rendered":"Argumentum non nazium"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"post1655-85js8128busvwk25taaj0yx3a\">Tyl\u00adsyy\u00adden Mul\u00adti\u00adhui\u00adpen\u00adnuk\u00adses\u00adsa puh\u00adjen\u00adneen <a href=\"http:\/\/aaretontylsyys.blogspot.com\/2005\/11\/aatteettomana-en-voi-lent.html\">uskon\u00adto\u00adkes\u00adkus\u00adte\u00adlun kom\u00admen\u00adteis\u00adsa<\/a> Lord Bore\u00addom sitee\u00adra\u00adsi minua ja esit\u00adti kysy\u00admyk\u00adsen:&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-85js8128busvwk25taaj0yx3a\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p id=\"post1655-2xgjpsu2x9tgrlf5ux6xw1tv4\">Jani kir\u00adjoit\u00adti: <em>\u201ct\u00e4l\u00adlai\u00adsil\u00adla nimi\u00adtyk\u00adsil\u00adl\u00e4 pyri\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4n minus\u00adta sur\u00adku\u00adhu\u00adpai\u00adsas\u00adti hake\u00admaan t\u00e4s\u00adm\u00e4l\u00adleen sit\u00e4 samaa mit\u00e4 uskon\u00adnois\u00adsa hae\u00adtaan yhtei\u00adsil\u00adl\u00e4 tun\u00adnuk\u00adsil\u00adla ja nimi\u00adtyk\u00adsil\u00adl\u00e4: ihmis\u00adten kes\u00adki\u00adn\u00e4is\u00adt\u00e4 yhteyt\u00adt\u00e4.\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-2xgjpsu2x9tgrlf5ux6xw1tv4\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-fot24w2g9ypesk24omwjgsjbp\">On[ko] ihmis\u00adten kes\u00adki\u00adn\u00e4i\u00adnen yhteys huo\u00adno asia?&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-fot24w2g9ypesk24omwjgsjbp\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-fmori3sknbj3e34u5xsvc8qwy\"><a href=\"http:\/\/aaretontylsyys.blogspot.com\/2005\/11\/aatteettomana-en-voi-lent.html#c113103531147686355\"><em>Tyl\u00adsyy\u00adden Mul\u00adti\u00adhui\u00adpen\u00adnus<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-fmori3sknbj3e34u5xsvc8qwy\">#<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p id=\"post1655-mr188v1iltgqrhxu3a3fh18yf\">Vas\u00adtauk\u00adse\u00adni on, ett\u00e4 on ja ei. Sii\u00adhen, ett\u00e4 se minus\u00adta on, en kui\u00adten\u00adkaan vii\u00adtan\u00adnut tuos\u00adsa sanal\u00adla sur\u00adku\u00adhu\u00adpai\u00adsa, vaan sur\u00adku\u00adhu\u00adpai\u00adsa\u00adna pid\u00e4n sit\u00e4, ett\u00e4 ateis\u00adtik\u00adsi tai agnos\u00adti\u00adkok\u00adsi tun\u00adnus\u00adtau\u00adtu\u00advan tun\u00adnus\u00adtau\u00adtu\u00admi\u00adsen pyr\u00adki\u00admys on poh\u00adjim\u00admil\u00adtaan t\u00e4s\u00adm\u00e4l\u00adleen sama kuin nii\u00adden ihmis\u00adten, joi\u00adden uskon\u00adtun\u00adnus\u00adtuk\u00adsien vali\u00addiu\u00adden he omal\u00adla tun\u00adnus\u00adtau\u00adtu\u00admi\u00adsel\u00adlaan pyr\u00adki\u00adv\u00e4t aset\u00adta\u00admaan kysee\u00adna\u00adlai\u00adsek\u00adsi: tul\u00adla yhdek\u00adsi yhdes\u00ads\u00e4 mui\u00adden itsen\u00ads\u00e4 tavoin ajat\u00adte\u00adle\u00advien muo\u00addos\u00adta\u00adman kol\u00adlek\u00adtii\u00advin kans\u00adsa.&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-mr188v1iltgqrhxu3a3fh18yf\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-7sgfj3pg5ewv9jedd1abktint\">Sit\u00adten, vaik\u00adka\u00adkin se t\u00e4m\u00e4n tar\u00adken\u00adnuk\u00adse\u00adni my\u00f6\u00adt\u00e4 ehk\u00e4 onkin sivuseik\u00adka, sii\u00adhen, mil\u00adl\u00e4 taval\u00adla ihmis\u00adten kes\u00adki\u00adn\u00e4i\u00adnen yhteys minus\u00adta on ja ei ole huo\u00adno asia.&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-7sgfj3pg5ewv9jedd1abktint\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-4primkm065776nuta6t0wn3aj\">Se <em>ei<\/em> ole minus\u00adta huo\u00adno asia sil\u00adl\u00e4 taval\u00adla, ett\u00e4\u00adk\u00f6 pit\u00e4i\u00adsin sit\u00e4 har\u00adjoit\u00adta\u00advia ihmi\u00adsi\u00e4 sen vuok\u00adsi huo\u00adnoi\u00adna sin\u00e4n\u00ads\u00e4. En pid\u00e4, sil\u00adl\u00e4 kai\u00adpuu t\u00e4l\u00adlai\u00adseen yhtey\u00adteen tun\u00adtuu ole\u00advan vah\u00advas\u00adti vais\u00adto\u00adpe\u00adrus\u00adtai\u00adnen ilmi\u00f6 (ja se tun\u00adtui\u00adsi var\u00adsin loo\u00adgi\u00adsel\u00adta aja\u00adtuk\u00adsel\u00adta evo\u00adluu\u00adtion n\u00e4k\u00f6\u00adkul\u00admas\u00adta\u00adkin) eiv\u00e4t\u00adk\u00e4 t\u00e4l\u00adlai\u00adset ihmi\u00adset n\u00e4in ollen tee muu\u00adta kuin toteut\u00adta\u00advat vais\u00adto\u00adaan.&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-4primkm065776nuta6t0wn3aj\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-5s9jptywg7anun4u7gdcx8b10\">T\u00e4m\u00e4 joh\u00adtaa\u00adkin sit\u00adten sii\u00adhen, mik\u00adsi se minus\u00adta my\u00f6s <em>on<\/em> huo\u00adno asia: kuten olen teks\u00adteis\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4n ollut poi\u00admi\u00advi\u00adna\u00adni Lor\u00addin\u00adkin ajat\u00adte\u00adle\u00advan, olen sit\u00e4 miel\u00adt\u00e4, ett\u00e4 ihmi\u00adsen ei pid\u00e4 toteut\u00adtaa sokeas\u00adti vais\u00adto\u00adjaan. Se ei auto\u00admaat\u00adti\u00adses\u00adti ja v\u00e4is\u00adt\u00e4\u00adm\u00e4t\u00adt\u00e4 joh\u00adda pahaan, mut\u00adta hyvin usein kui\u00adten\u00adkin.&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-5s9jptywg7anun4u7gdcx8b10\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-qht66edowcriya8nyvlxgmxok\">Lord jat\u00adkaa:&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-qht66edowcriya8nyvlxgmxok\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p id=\"post1655-9jb82dodcutgv3dtenbn1slbl\">\u201cT\u00e4l\u00adl\u00e4\u00adh\u00e4n loke\u00adroin\u00adtia voi\u00adsi aina\u00adkin puo\u00adlus\u00adtel\u00adla: Nii\u00adden avul\u00adla on help\u00adpo hakeu\u00adtua mui\u00adden samoi\u00adna\u00adjat\u00adte\u00adle\u00advien kans\u00adsa samoi\u00adhin pii\u00adrei\u00adhin.\u201d&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-9jb82dodcutgv3dtenbn1slbl\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-ornv33k693y5c6q2vyn49rr8e\">ed.&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-ornv33k693y5c6q2vyn49rr8e\">#<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p id=\"post1655-e18kr41mjiwo5vdj51t9c89iw\">T\u00e4s\u00adm\u00e4l\u00adleen niin loke\u00adroin\u00adti tekee, sil\u00adl\u00e4 juu\u00adri se - kes\u00adke\u00adn\u00e4\u00e4n samal\u00adla taval\u00adla ajat\u00adte\u00adle\u00advien ajau\u00adtu\u00admi\u00adnen samoi\u00adhin pii\u00adrei\u00adhin - on sen tar\u00adkoi\u00adtus.&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-e18kr41mjiwo5vdj51t9c89iw\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p id=\"post1655-b3vsvnh1vgucn5df10hdtgxcu\">\u201cLoke\u00adroin\u00adti mah\u00addol\u00adlis\u00adtaa liit\u00adtou\u00adtu\u00admi\u00adsen, ja hel\u00adpot\u00adtaa jaot\u00adte\u00adlua \u201cliit\u00adto\u00adlai\u00adsiin\u201d ja \u201cvihol\u00adli\u00adsiin\u201d (ja \u201csivul\u00adli\u00adsiin\u201d) [\u2026]\u201d&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-b3vsvnh1vgucn5df10hdtgxcu\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-ornv33k693y5c6q2vyn49rr8e\">ed.&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-ornv33k693y5c6q2vyn49rr8e\">#<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p id=\"post1655-kgwq13ebphpolftqkq7vmiwsa\">Tal\u00adlen\u00adsin ker\u00adran hie\u00adnon sitaa\u00adtin t\u00e4h\u00e4n hyvin l\u00e4hei\u00adses\u00adti liit\u00adty\u00adv\u00e4s\u00adt\u00e4 aihees\u00adta, <a href=\"http:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/04\/30\/lohkominen-splitting-ja-selviytyminen\/\">split\u00adtin\u00adgis\u00adt\u00e4<\/a>. Juu\u00adri tuo liit\u00adto\u00adlai\u00adsiin ja vihol\u00adli\u00adsiin jaot\u00adte\u00adlu on esi\u00admerk\u00adki sii\u00adt\u00e4, min\u00adk\u00e4 vuok\u00adsi t\u00e4m\u00e4n kol\u00adlek\u00adtii\u00advi\u00adsuus\u00advais\u00adton nou\u00addat\u00adta\u00admi\u00adnen sokeas\u00adti on minus\u00adta vaa\u00adral\u00adlis\u00adta. Se on perus\u00adta\u00adna tuol\u00adlai\u00adsel\u00adle mus\u00adta\u00adval\u00adkoi\u00adsel\u00adle \u201cliittolaisia\/vihollisia\u201d-ajattelulle, ja se ajat\u00adte\u00adlu puo\u00adles\u00adtaan oli ehk\u00e4 hy\u00f6\u00addyl\u00adli\u00adnen vie\u00adl\u00e4 jos\u00adkus tuhan\u00adsia vuo\u00adsia sit\u00adten, mut\u00adta nykyi\u00adsin sii\u00adhen sis\u00e4l\u00adtyy minun mie\u00adles\u00adt\u00e4\u00adni enem\u00adm\u00e4n vaa\u00adro\u00adja kuin hy\u00f6\u00adty\u00adj\u00e4.&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-kgwq13ebphpolftqkq7vmiwsa\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-7l9r8qg20ddwbl858o4gxm815\">Ja huo\u00admat\u00adkaa kuin\u00adka <em>en<\/em> t\u00e4s\u00ads\u00e4 yhtey\u00addes\u00ads\u00e4 vet\u00e4\u00adnyt esiin edes Hit\u00adler-kort\u00adtia!&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-7l9r8qg20ddwbl858o4gxm815\">#<\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"post1655-jj5vnqj34u3n5hsc19pe8hw8w\">(Muis\u00adte\u00adlen, ett\u00e4 <a href=\"http:\/\/tsalo.blogspot.com\/\">Timo<\/a> kir\u00adjoit\u00adti jos\u00adkus jotain Hit\u00adler-kor\u00adtis\u00adta, mut\u00adta tuo Blog\u00adge\u00adrin haku\u00adveh\u00adje on niin onne\u00adton ettei\u00adh\u00e4n sil\u00adl\u00e4 mit\u00e4\u00e4n l\u00f6y\u00add\u00e4.)&nbsp;<a rel=\"bookmark\" class=\"paragraph-permalink\" href=\"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/2005\/11\/03\/42\/#post1655-jj5vnqj34u3n5hsc19pe8hw8w\">#<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tyl\u00adsyy\u00adden Mul\u00adti\u00adhui\u00adpen\u00adnuk\u00adses\u00adsa puh\u00adjen\u00adneen uskon\u00adto\u00adkes\u00adkus\u00adte\u00adlun kom\u00admen\u00adteis\u00adsa Lord Bore\u00addom sitee\u00adra\u00adsi minua ja esit\u00adti kysy\u00admyk\u00adsen:&nbsp;# Jani kir\u00adjoit\u00adti: \u201ct\u00e4l\u00adlai\u00adsil\u00adla nimi\u00adtyk\u00adsil\u00adl\u00e4 pyri\u00adt\u00e4\u00e4n minus\u00adta sur\u00adku\u00adhu\u00adpai\u00adsas\u00adti hake\u00admaan t\u00e4s\u00adm\u00e4l\u00adleen sit\u00e4 samaa mit\u00e4 uskon\u00adnois\u00adsa hae\u00adtaan yhtei\u00adsil\u00adl\u00e4 tun\u00adnuk\u00adsil\u00adla ja nimi\u00adtyk\u00adsil\u00adl\u00e4: ihmis\u00adten kes\u00adki\u00adn\u00e4is\u00adt\u00e4 yhteyt\u00adt\u00e4.\u201d&nbsp;# On[ko] ihmis\u00adten kes\u00adki\u00adn\u00e4i\u00adnen yhteys huo\u00adno asia?&nbsp;# Tyl\u00adsyy\u00adden Mul\u00adti\u00adhui\u00adpen\u00adnus&nbsp;# Vas\u00adtauk\u00adse\u00adni on, ett\u00e4 on ja ei. Sii\u00adhen, ett\u00e4 se minus\u00adta on, en kui\u00adten\u00adkaan viitannut&nbsp;[\u2026]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[11444],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1655","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-merkinnat"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1655","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1655"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1655\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1655"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1655"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mummila.net\/marginaali\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1655"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}